Episode 1- New Times

Convergence Podcast

Episode Summary

In the first episode of their podcast, hosts Jericho and Zion Reynolds introduce themselves and their respective spiritual practices. Zion identifies as an energy reader who sees people intellectually, like a dictionary, while Jericho is an energy worker and healer who focuses on emotions and auras. They note that their contrasting approaches create a good balance for their discussions.

Shifting Energies and Societal Changes

The core theme of the episode is a significant energetic shift they believe is currently underway. Zion initiates the discussion by sharing that a recent series of car accidents involving him and his friends was a physical manifestation of a new, higher energy. He interprets these events as challenges designed to force people to upgrade and leave old patterns behind. Jericho agrees, stating that overcoming these challenges makes one stronger.

The conversation extends this concept to the political and societal landscape. They argue that the recent political climate is a reflection of this energy, presenting an opportunity for a new cycle and a break from the past. They contend that the problem is not the political system itself, but the negative attitudes and behaviors of people on both sides of the aisle. They suggest the true path forward is to create a new option rather than being stuck between two inadequate ones.

Both hosts believe that established institutions, particularly large religious organizations and the mainstream news media, have lost their credibility by prioritizing power and money over substance. They foresee a future where these old power structures will face consequences for their actions, making way for new voices and a new era.

The New Era and Personal Blessings

Zion shares a vision of a convergence of multiple religions, a spiritual unity that he and Jericho equate to the end of the "Babel effect." They feel this new era will value substance over titles and wisdom over age or credentials, creating a fertile environment for new, untainted voices to emerge. They also predict a transition of power from the "old guard" to the young, foreseeing inheritances and opportunities being handed over sooner than expected. They suggest that for those who willingly relinquish control, this transition will bring immense blessings and healing.

The episode ends with several predictions for the near future, including a period of intense energy and potential physical manifestations like violent storms. Despite these challenges, they convey a message of hope and resilience, particularly for those in California, and suggest a glimmer of hope will emerge around the New Year. They encourage listeners to persevere through difficult times, viewing them as a necessary part of a journey to a higher spiritual state. The podcast concludes with a prayer for listeners to find hope, joy, and a new, positive perspective on life.

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Episode Transcript (Can be errors)

F1 S1 0:00
All right. So this is our first podcast here with Zion and myself, Jericho. 

F1 S2 0:05
Hi. How's it going, guys? My name is Zion Reynolds. Let's introduce ourselves. I'm Zion Reynolds. I do energy reading. I've been involved in spirituality my whole life. I I'm good at reading people. That's that's primarily my thing. Now, you do healing. Explain that. 

F1 S1 0:23
I do energy work, right? Well, you could call it faith based. I found out recently that people call it Theta, and I also do Reiki, which I got my master's in that obviously I can do that. But so what I do is I read people's auras and I read people's energy and I help them with any kind of inconsistency they might have in their life when it comes to their energy body. 

F1 S2 0:43
That's interesting. You know, I'm kind of new to that, but I'm pretty good at reading people. I'm just kind of like, I don't know, it's kind of more information, you know, people have asked me, like, how do you how do you do it? Like being connected to all these people. I see people is kind of like a dictionary. I see them intellectually. I'm very much intellectual. So that's that's my that's my thing. I don't get too attached. I kind of put up a boundary and I just kind of read. People seem like a book. 

F1 S1 1:10
That's interesting, cause a lot of the time I read people's like, energy in their emotions. 

F1 S2 1:14
Yeah. So, yeah, it's a pretty good balance. 

F1 S1 1:17
Yeah, it is. Very much so. 

F1 S2 1:18
You know, I was thinking, you know, something that I wanted to speak about. What's going on in the world today. I mean, we got the elections, and now this whole thing is, you know, it's. It's about metaphysical stuff. You know, we're going to go beneath the surface, but what I've noticed, I got into that in my my friends, everybody's been getting into car accidents. I just got through an accident. I hit a deer and all both of my brothers within a week got into an accident. And my other friend, just terrorist car, he got to an accident. So I feel like there's a it's some big energy thing that's coming down that I've been feeling. And I feel like it's a time for people kind of to leave the past behind to kind of get I mean, your car is very connected to you. It's your transportation. If you see a car in a dream, it's your method of expression. It's it's it's tied into your purpose. It's tied into your identity. It's very it's interesting. It's like I've been feeling a lot of challenges, but I feel like now it's a time to upgrade. And what I've been feeling a lot, especially for me, it's like everything's been going wrong. And I said, I knew that Halloween was a new energy. I told myself a new energy was going to move in at Halloween. And you said, like the day after it was going to it was going to All Saints Day was going to be significant. It was going to be, Oh, yeah. 

F1 S1 2:34
For. 

F1 S2 2:35
Sure. And that night, Halloween night, 5 minutes after it changed over, I felt this some weird happened. I saw this girl and she was in a bad spot. So I gave her some money and I was like, You know what? You look like You could use it. I want to help you. And I felt this weird energy and I wasn't sure if I should do. I was just go, you know, you kind of debate whether you should do it or not. I felt this weird energy and I was like, Oh, I wonder what's going to come of this? Within 5 minutes, I hit a deer. I mean, this is on 83. I mean, this is on the interstate. It just came out of nowhere. I mean, just bull. And they messed up the car a little bit. But I was saying, I mean, it was okay, but I felt like this energy thing, it just started a chain of events. It started an interesting chain of events. And I feel like I was dealing with some I don't want to say negative energy, but it's like a bunch of things started to go wrong and it's I feel like when the energy comes, when higher energy comes, everything operates in polarities. So if you feel negativity, if you feel surrounded by it, it's actually an upgrade, but you just haven't translated the power. What I feel, you know, it's funny how you see things, your eyes see things, everything upside down and it flips it. 

F1 S1 3:50
Very true. Is like a trans transposition. 

F1 S2 3:52
Yeah. And it's like everything in this world is inverted. And I think like the correct answer isn't running away from problems and trying to avoid things. The higher you go, the more you've probably heard a new level, new devil. But it's like the higher you go, the more negative energy you encounter. But you just haven't translated into power. You have to sit in that energy. You have to you have to kind of it's kind of like attached. You have to adore it in the beginning, but then you will translate it into power. It's actually an upgrade. 

F1 S1 4:23
It's very similar to how I see it as it's something to overcome, but you become stronger by doing so. So yeah, it's not the same exact thing, but it's very similar. 

F1 S2 4:32
Yeah, it's interesting. And that's what I've been feeling and it's I don't know, it's like a lot of people are in this spot too, especially with the elections. I knew that was going to be huge. And what, what is your take on that? What is your take on that? 

F1 S1 4:45
I think it happened exactly the way it needed to for the changes that needed to come. 

F1 S2 4:50
And it's interesting, I do see a lot of changes. I mean, there's a lot of division and I try to I'm basically a mediator. I basically bring people together and I feel like and I saw and I was surprised right after Trump won, I saw a huge I saw this energy come in and I was watching CNN and MSNBC and all the other ones and all the liberal stuff. And they were very open. They I was not expecting that. I was like, wow, this could be a great time for healing. This could be a great time for unity. And it's regardless of your position, I feel like it could be a time to come together in a new way to where we can heal some of the divide and even and just make new progress no matter what you believe. I mean, no matter. And it's funny, I saw the most hostility on Fox News, to be honest. 

F1 S1 5:40
Interesting. 

F1 S2 5:40
Yeah, I saw the most hostility on Fox News. And I just wanted to like I just wanted to say I feel like like, you know, I feel on Groundhog Day where he beats the pillows beat in his face, I'm totally dead. I'm like, Dude, shut up. I'm like, Yeah, they're going to do this. Democrats are going to do this. Why are you prophesying? You're projecting this negativity. Just shut up and wait. Just be like, okay. 

F1 S1 6:01
You give them a chance. 

F1 S2 6:02
Don't be like, What is that movie? What is it movie? It's like, okay, it's one of these movies, Ender's Game. In the end, it's like, Yeah, the bad Aliens were, they like, they attacked us, but they were sitting there, They're waiting and it's like we could have waited and just said, Send a message to like, All right, let's quit the war. But they just kept going. And then so it just picked up the same cycles. That's what I feel. I feel like this is a time to break cycles. 

F1 S1 6:25
Yeah, it's a very good point. 

F1 S2 6:26
This is a time to break a cyclic pattern that's been negative for a while. This is a time for a new cycle. Something something new could come in and could change the game on on all sides, to be honest. 

F1 S1 6:39
Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's definitely there's a lot of change that needs to take place. You know, our system isn't working as it is. The world is not working the way it is. It's a lot of it is, but there are a lot of gaps. There's a lot of things that fall through the cracks. 

F1 S2 6:53
That is true. And I basically break that down to people. Yeah, I think people have lost faith in the system. I think if people don't believe in the system, they'll sabotage it. They'll they'll mess it up. It could have been the greatest system handed down. But if people are so jaded and they've we've got these negative patterns playing out, it's like they sabotage it. It's like you look like the left. You know, I've been working in politics for for a while. I've been on the campaign trail and I learned a lot. I see people that I used to think the systems are broken. We just need to throw it away and get a new one. I learned I learned differently when I was doing that. I saw basically that it can be salvaged. It's not necessarily a bad system, but people's attitudes kind of have to change. It's not about the system. It's not about having the most perfect system. It's like the martial art movies. Yeah, it's like, Oh, this is the best style. Dragon style will beat all the styles. No, no, no. It's about the person. If the people have bad attitudes and if the people aren't in the right place, and if they don't have a good mindset, they're going to screw up any system. 

F1 S1 7:58
That's true. It's like going into a system that is meant to help keep everybody motivated or liberated in a sense, kind of like how this country was founded. That was kind of the concept of the Constitution and everything. But then you have all these people that come in and they want to just consolidate power and control and keep it in a certain way that keeps the system from working the way it was intended. 

F1 S2 8:18
Yeah. And then you see people like on the right, you know, they say a lot, you know, the like, oh, we just need to throw this away or that. It's, it's I don't know. It's I've seen it a lot. I've seen a lot of people they say we need to, you know what I'm saying. 

F1 S1 8:34
Yeah it's it's everything. 

F1 S2 8:36
Happens on both sides. It really does. 

F1 S1 8:38
Everybody talks about sunsetting and removing everything. But if you remove everything all at once to be a problem. 

F1 S2 8:43
That's what it was. It's like, you know, limited government. They like the government's evil, so we should just get rid of them. I don't think that's the right answer it. I don't think like the left. They say that, you know, oh, let's just get rid of the Constitution. You know, I don't think either of them are the right answer. I think it's kind of like, what do you want, A or B? I think the problem is, given that selection, there are two crappy choices. Yeah. You need to create C and if you can't create it, you need to sit down. If people are playing these patterns out, if this negative energy keeps coming, you need to stop the negative energy. You need to let that dissipate before you can make a clear decision or even see a new a new pattern. 

F1 S1 9:21
That's true because everyone gets stuck in the cycles. 

F1 S2 9:24
Yeah, yeah. And I feel like it's a time now politically, I'm really feeling it's a time to really break negative cycles. Yeah, I feel like that could very much happen and I don't know if everybody's going to get this. I don't know if everybody's going to jump on board, but I feel like it applies to the individual as well. Maybe you have a pattern, maybe you've got a pattern of abuse in your life. I feel like what's coming, the energy that's coming through now, you have the opportunity to break that. You have the people have had basically contracts in the past with themselves or with situations. They've said it's kind of like a contract. It's like you've done something so long, you're in such a pattern of doing it, so you've kind of made its like an unspoken agreement you've made. I feel like now's the time that people can really it's challenging energy, but I feel like it's meant to break that pattern. 

F1 S1 10:16
It would be nice if we could collectively end the chapter and start a new one. 

F1 S2 10:21
I feel like the opportunity is definitely on the table. I feel like a lot of people will. I feel like I see a lot of hope, actually. And some people, you know, after the election you hear some doom and gloom stories, Oh my God, it's going to be World War three. It doesn't have to be. No, it doesn't have to be. It doesn't matter who wins it. It doesn't really matter the situation. It doesn't have to be you know, people like, you know, I've heard people say, oh, we're going to need a civil war in this country to straighten things out. It doesn't have to come to that. 

F1 S1 10:50
No, it doesn't at all. It's the problem is a lot of the time, as people cannot sit down and discuss civilly, everybody wants to pull out the batons and pull out the torches. 

F1 S2 11:01
And what do they do? They bring up the past. Well, you've done this. You've done this. And see, that's the thing, like a clean slate. If you want new energy, you're going to have to have a clean slate. You've got to give other people a clean slate. Don't accuse in the past. I feel like that is that is what's what's happening now. There is a new power. I'm seeing new energy emerge and the people and I'm just going to say this, the people that are stuck to the old patterns, you're going to quickly find that you try to bring this into the new energy. There's going to be a conflict and things have shifted and it's going to take a while for people to realize the shift that just happened. Yep. But what's going to happen is you try to bring up this old pattern and it's not going to work out well for you. In the past you got away with it. I feel like the requirements have been upped. I feel like the standard has risen and I feel like this is a new time. Whether and it might take you a couple of months. But I feel like it's going to be rough for some people that don't get this. I feel like circumstances will violently now. In the past it's like I could have I could have marginalized you and slapped you around a million times in the past, and you weren't going to do anything about it. Now I feel like there's going to be consequences for both sides. 

F1 S1 12:13
Definitely. There's the proverbial out with the old guard and then with the new Year man. 

F1 S2 12:19
I mean, I didn't see that. But now, now we're walking into it. It's interesting and I feel like it doesn't it doesn't matter what side you're on. You think, oh, it's for them or it's now it's it's for it's the whole playing field. I feel like now I feel too this whole pick a side thing I feel like that has been I feel like that has shifted as well, you know? And this is like sometimes I get I get I'm conscious of this and I'm aware, but it's it's new and it has to play out over six months. People might be like, okay, you're saying it. I don't see it. Just wait six months. You'll see it. I promise you. 

F1 S1 12:58
I mean, some of the stuff you said is already happening. If you're looking correctly, if you're looking in the right place, you're seeing. 

F1 S2 13:04
People don't know how to look, man. They're just showing up. They're creatures of habit, man. They're just caught up in the past so much. But I feel like it's changed significantly. And just like you go back to the whole Fox News thing, 

it's funny in martial arts. I remember when I was a kid, I was doing karate and I was just throwing punches and kicks and all kinds of stuff in every direction, every punch that you throw that does not land, that is an ounce of respect that your opponent loses for you. 

F1 S1 13:33
That's interesting. 

F1 S2 13:34
So one should just throw accusations. 

I feel like it's going to catch up to them now and I feel like this is the requirements are upped across the board. So I feel like the news, I feel like the news media. That's why a lot of new podcasts are coming out. And I wanted to do this for a while, but I feel like people with that mindset, they're going to get put in their place quickly. And in the past it didn't matter, but I feel like now it's going to matter. There's going to be consequences. 

F1 S1 14:07
It does because there's a new age being ushered in, whether people realize it or not. And what's going to happen is a lot of people are going to be stuck in those ways and they are not going to want to move out of the way for what's coming. Yeah, it's going to hit them like a train. Yeah, it's funny. 

F1 S2 14:22
There's always I see like the standards getting higher and higher because we are evolving, we are raising our consciousness. So I do feel that with, with this it always goes on. It's like you can't get away with what you did before and for a while it didn't matter. It's a grace period. There's a grace period for a while. It doesn't matter. You get away with murder and then the standard raises and then some people I'm telling you, man, I can see it. There's going to be examples. I feel like God or whatever you want to call it, God's going to make an example out of people like that. There's going to be some people that fall really hard up in the upcoming year or two. I feel like it doesn't matter who they are, the titles won't matter. Churches, I feel big religious organizations, churches, the megachurches. It doesn't matter what name you are. I mean, look at these celebrities. It won't matter if you're a movie star. It doesn't it's not going to matter. I mean, the requirements when requirements get upped, it's it doesn't matter. You can't hide behind your titles anymore. I feel like that's something else is going to change because people don't respect it anymore. It's, you know, I have to I feel like to get along in this society. I have to be a doctor, I have to be a lawyer, I have to be a mechanic. I have to be everything because I get you know, you go to your doctor and they just want to sell you. You go to a lawyer. They just it's all about your money. So their titles have almost lost their credibility and lost their power. 

F1 S1 15:48
Well, it's funny of some of the stuff you're talking about with the church, too. How does the church respond? Any of the churches respond or handle the idea of the potentials? Let's put it this way. What happens if God decides to pull his authority as president from all the churches? How how what does that look like? How did they handle it? 

F1 S2 16:07
Well, it's in the Bible. The glory. The glory. God left the temple. It was destroyed soon after. All right. That's exactly that's exactly what's going to happen, because the whole religious thing, it's not going to float anymore. These have been has been being floated for a long time now. It's all about substance. 

F1 S1 16:27
Well, yeah, it's because organized religion has gotten to the point it was always kind of been there where it's not there for the people. It's not there for the congregation. The best part of a church is the congregation, period. 

F1 S2 16:39
Well, that is the church. Exactly. By the biblical definition. 

F1 S1 16:42
Exactly. 

F1 S2 16:42
The church is a people. It's not a. 

F1 S1 16:44
Building. So when you turn it into power and control and less for money and all that stuff, it's not what it's supposed to be. 

F1 S2 16:51
Yeah, I feel like I mean, I can see megachurch is falling. I mean, I can see I can see that. And you know, people think, you know, people that they hide behind, even a political party feel like, oh, we're Republicans and Trump won, so we're going to be able to do whatever you want. I don't see that, to be honest. I really don't see that. 

F1 S1 17:12
Yeah, I'm going to go. 

F1 S2 17:16
Yeah, man. That's that's what I'm seeing. So what are you seeing with the world? 

F1 S1 17:20
Well, to talk about the churches, it is definitely something that I also believe is going to happen. I do believe the churches are going to run into some very hard times going forward, because I do believe from what I have seen, that they, in their own way, want the power and control so much that they are themselves becoming adversarial to God. 

F1 S2 17:44
You know, it's interesting. I got this word about a year ago. They felt like Trump is like their big messiah and Trump was going to save them. I was told different. I was told that's not going to happen. I was told like two people, they can't just think, Oh, Trump won. Now we can do whatever we want. It's not going to go down that way. It's really not going to go down that way. I feel like and I feel like even it's like a whole new requirement. Dude, I had this vision last night. I saw all these candlesticks, like in Revelation. How a talk show. Like the candlesticks for each church. Yes. I saw all of them merge into one big one. Wow. So it's like a polarization. It's like and I've said this for a while, and this isn't just one church. This isn't just like, Oh, the Baptists and the Pentecostals. This is like multiple churches. This is like people that people are in Wicca, people that are in Scientology, people that are in it. Pentecostals, like all even Buddhists and like they're all it's like there's a big worldwide unity that's going to come like not just denominations, I mean, multiple religions. They're going to there's going to be sections of them that just come together as one. 

F1 S1 18:59
Like a big convergence. 

F1 S2 19:00
Yes, like a mass. And there might be a polarization. The people that don't like that and they want to stick to their little boxes, they might resist it, but I don't know. I don't know. But that's what I that's what I see. Well, it's. 

F1 S1 19:14
Interesting you say that. I was talking to my dad last night about some of this very topic. And one of the things he had said was that the what is it 

the babble effect needs to end. 

F1 S2 19:28
Well, that's exactly what that's. 

F1 S1 19:29
What he said. 

F1 S2 19:30
That's exactly what that is. And that's perfect. That that's exactly what it is. Separation of the languages is separation of religions. It's perspectives. That's exactly what that is. And that comes out of pride. I mean, the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar pride. All right. That's the statue and Daniel. Yep. All right. There's different there's different layers and there's spirituality, each one. But pride is my religion to the right one. You're wrong. That's an old system. And I feel like we've evolved past that now. And I feel that's the new era. It's a whole new era. You call it Aquarius or whatever. That's what we're entering into. And it's it's very interesting, but it's I feel like there's good people, there's good people in each one. 

F1 S1 20:11
Correct. 

F1 S2 20:12
That I feel like it was separated. See, a lot of these accord guys talk about, oh, it was God was just some big A-hole, you know, that didn't want anybody to receive enlightenment. So we separated everybody. I don't see it that way. It's like, okay, a tree can't grow next to another tree. They need to be separate for a time to grow. And there's this old there's this old Hopi prophecy that what is it? Black people are the people in the water. Have you heard this one is a white boy. The people are fire now. Asians are, the people are air and the natives are the people of the earth. And they were separated for a long time so they can learn and grow. And then they'd come back and share their knowledge at the end of time. 

F1 S1 20:53
So it's a very fascinating. 

F1 S2 20:54
So that's what I'm seeing. 

F1 S1 20:56
Another convergence. 

F1 S2 20:56
It's about growth, it's about the separate. You know, it's funny, I got this word one night I was praying and I was like, you know, God, why don't you just rip open the spiritual atmosphere and just reveal yourself to the whole world you like? I can't do that because there'd be a million new religions invented overnight. It'd be more division, it'd be more craziness. And it's people aren't ready for that level of knowledge and revelation. But when they come together and get some unity now this happens in all spheres. This is the political sphere as well. People aren't ready for maybe some great solutions, maybe even technology. But what do we got now? We got Elijah, we got Elon Musk with with Donald Trump. And it's starting to form. It's starting to form. But I even think what I see too, I even see Democrats coming on board with this. I even see people like even liberal, even like Bernie Sanders. I supported Bernie Sanders. I mean, that's how I kind of got into politics and and when Trump when Trump won, I was everybody was like, oh, it's the end of the world. It's all it's terrible. And I was like, well, I don't know. Let's give the guy a chance. Yeah, You know, I didn't I didn't just bashing. I was like, Let's see, he said. She said a few good things, you know, it's I'm kind of moderate, you know, She said some good things. I just want to bring people together, to be honest. I mean, I can see the good. I try to look for the good in all people. 

F1 S1 22:17
No. Yeah. To your point, it's like when humanity comes together, it can accomplish so much more. 

F1 S2 22:25
Exactly. 

F1 S1 22:26
It's like, when did we lose focus? I'm building wonders of the world. Yeah. Why? Why did we stop? Yes, there's a few here and there people could say, Oh, Dubai. Oh, this. Oh, that is not like it used to be it. 

F1 S2 22:38
I just heard something somebody was saying, Oh, World War two. It was great. It was great because we developed it. It let us develop so much technology. Now, what if they wouldn't have had the war and they would have brought all the countries together to just develop technology? 

F1 S1 22:53
Oh. 

F1 S2 22:54
How much more? I mean. Yeah, far greater. I mean, I feel like. But that's the level we're tapping into now or it's going to be presented. It will be presented. Some people might not want to go in this direction and some people will. I see a lot of people will. To be honest. I see a new level, a unity coming. I see a lot of Democrats getting on board. I see a whole new revamp to the whole American political system. I see it's going to get revamped all the way across the board. That's what I'm seeing. 

F1 S1 23:20
Well, it's definitely time. It definitely needs it because we've been sowing division for so long just to keep people separate and in their own cages, basically. 

F1 S2 23:29
Yeah. And it's not working. I mean, it's bursting at the seams and. 

F1 S1 23:34
A big organization or big group of any kind, if there's any, quote, bad apples or people just upset about something or not upset, there are people focused too much on the few people rather than what the overall group is like. 

F1 S2 23:50
Yeah. 

F1 S1 23:51
Whoever's the loudest. 

F1 S2 23:52
Yeah. It's funny, in the past, different people and this is something else I see in the future. Different people feel like anchors or people, they dominate everybody else. So one person has a negative opinion. Everybody else has to go. I see that changing as well. I feel like in the future or what's coming up, there's not going to be if one is even in the news, if if one guy doesn't like this, everybody else has to follow in line. I think it's going to change to where there can be different opinions all the way across the board, where everybody's opinions are going to be respected. And it's not one person isn't going to dominate the field any more as far as public opinion is concerned. 

F1 S1 24:33
So that should be a more balanced approach where everybody has the option to take the time to look into something, whether it's politics or anything, whether it's religion, whether it's culture, whatever it is, everyone should have the opportunity to take the time to sit down and really think about it instead of just being absorbed into the masses and listening to one voice, if that makes sense. 

F1 S2 24:55
Yeah. And I feel like new voices are going to emerge and I feel like even young, young voices as well, people that are very young kids, teenagers, you know, 20 year olds. I think that's they're going to there's going to be some prominent people that raise up that are that are that are very young. And I feel like that's going to be a thing to do is where it's like in the past, it's like to be in the media or to be a prominent voice. You had to be you had to be 50 or you had to be you had to be old. You needed all these degrees and all these titles. I feel like that doesn't matter anymore. That doesn't matter. Nobody cares. I mean, nobody cares about degrees anymore. Nobody cares about all the old, you know, all the certificates and all the crap because, dude, bullshit walks. All right? That's the climate of America. I mean, there's just so much marketing crap. I mean, there's so much stuff that has no substance, and it's it it's it's failed. And it's selling people short and people can see through it. They're like, this isn't producing. There's no substance. And so I feel like now it's just kind of like it's kind of like your word. I wrote about this in my first book. Okay, If you devalue your word, if you keep breaking your word, your word means nothing and people take your word. It's nothing like the American government and all these institutions like doctors, I mean, they've got such a bad rap. They just want money. They're power hungry. Their word is become nothing. So now they're degrees. It's diminished. Like their their esteem and their oh, I'm an authority that's gone because they've sold it out. They've sold it out. I mean, they've sold it out for money. So now people don't care. People don't care about their titles. They don't care. Oh, this doctor, what do you do? Everybody thinks they're an authority because the authority itself is lost its power because people have just pissed on their word. So I think that's what we're walking into as well. It's I don't I try not to look at this as good or bad. It just is, you know, with this, it it gives the opportunity for new people that have never tainted their word to be equal or the playing field with somebody that went to college for broadcasting. It has all these degrees and all these certifications and all this all this stuff, and the people will listen to them the same if they've got something good to say, people will listen and they don't because they have the other side to value their word. So it kind of opens up the doors for people that have never spoken. 

F1 S1 27:15
Yeah. 

F1 S2 27:16
What's worse. Okay, let me ask you a question. Sure. Good. What is worse? Somebody that's a habitual liar or somebody who's never said anything? Who do you trust more? 

F1 S1 27:27
You trust the person that keeps talking. Not that we should, but that's what people do. 

F1 S2 27:32
People. 

F1 S1 27:32
Do you see what I'm saying? 

F1 S2 27:33
Yes. So you say habitual liar. Just because they're present, Just because people know their presence. 

F1 S1 27:38
Because if they don't know that the other person's even there, or that other voices even there because it's not hasn't said anything at all, then okay. 

F1 S2 27:45
What if they come out and say something? 

F1 S1 27:47
Oh, well, then you have to come out and say something and they work on it. Then people might actually gravitate. 

F1 S2 27:51
So you're a habitual liar and I, you don't know me and somebody else. You keep telling somebody else something and then I have a different opinion. Who are they going to listen to? Who are you going to think they're going to be more credible? Who's going to be more credible in their eyes. 

F1 S1 28:04
In this theory? They know that they're habitual. Liar, right? 

F1 S2 28:08
Yeah. Well, they know other. 

F1 S1 28:09
Than the person that hasn't been talking, it'll be more. 

F1 S2 28:11
Credible. Exactly. Yeah. And I think that's what we're walking it to. I think it's a great time for people to find their voice. I mean, I feel like a lot of people, a lot of new people are going to find their voice now and to where in the past, it doesn't matter. Maybe even going to politics. It's you look at Trump's like his appointments. He's not like picking like ordinary people. I mean, I think it's to the place to like I don't think he cares. I don't think he's looking for certificates and accolades and all these all this stuff. He just he's just looking for out of the box. And I feel like it's a time for out of the box. I mean, hey, what is the Age of Aquarius, man? Yeah, what is the Age of Aquarius? You know, you've got these patterns and I feel like it's a time to definitely break patterns. I mean, we might wait, wait. Three, three years. This this, this nation might change completely. A lot can happen in three years or four years. A lot can happen. Yeah. To be honest, you know, I'm not saying and I'm not even saying all Trump's going to do all this. It's all going to be Trump. I don't think so. I don't think it is. And people, you know, it's funny, when Obama got elected, he was like, Jesus. Then when Trump got elected, he was like, Jesus. It's like you look into these leaders, you think the leaders is going to is going to you know, it's not going to be the leaders, it's going to be other people. It's going to be people that you probably never even heard of. You know, I don't put the faith. I don't put the weight in the world in one person. I don't I think it's going to be a lot of people that are going to come up and do great. They have the potential. So I'm not looking for I'm not looking, oh, my God. You know, these these people think, oh, Trump's going to save them. That's not the case. That is not the case. It's not going to happen. 

F1 S1 29:52
You know, it's funny, with all the stuff you're talking about, like it doesn't matter so much the age and everything and it does it so like a new voice can come out, Someone could be younger and they'll have things to say. A very good friend of mine once told me that age does not equate wisdom. 

F1 S2 30:06
It's funny. It really doesn't. And, you know, I can relate to that because people look at me and I mean, I cheat a little bit. They're like, Oh, you're really young. And I've studied like a mad scientist for 20 years and different things. And there's people that they might be 20 years older than me, but they might take a class once or twice a week. You think they have more wisdom? No, I'm not saying I'm the smartest person in the world, but you know, time you put into it as well, you know, you take somebody that's 30 years old that studies like a mad scientist for since they're 15 and they're going to far surpassed somebody who's 40 who takes a class once in a while. It's just what it is. 

F1 S1 30:47
It is it's the dedication and the time you're put into it. 

F1 S2 30:50
And I do I definitely do believe in a time thing. You know, I got this I got this book idea about template of your life like different ages. And it is true, it does correlate. Wisdom does come with time, but it's how much time you put in. It's not how much time you sit around and you let the number clock up. 

F1 S1 31:08
It's how you use that time. 

F1 S2 31:09
It's how you use the time. Yeah. 

So let's get out of politics. Let's get out of politics. I want to. I want you do. Let me ask you what's new in your world? What what new things have you discovered in your your energy work? What new things have you found within the last six, six months? 

F1 S1 31:30
Oh, in the last six months? Like what have you learned? I have learned. 

F1 S2 31:35
You mess it up. 

F1 S1 31:36
Oh, yeah. Oh, the lot. It's a lot. 

Essentially, that reality and all of existence is far more expansive than one could possibly imagine. Yeah, Like, you know, we always have these theories on how things work and how everything goes, but with things I have learned recently is, you know, who knows? Maybe our universe is just one little pool. And the math of oasis or massive ocean and seas of infinite places that exist. 

F1 S2 32:06
And quite interesting. 

F1 S1 32:08
It is. 

F1 S2 32:09
And I mean, there's a lot of talk about that online right now. There's reality splitting in three D, five D, I mean, all kinds of stuff. 

F1 S1 32:17
Mm hmm. 

F1 S2 32:18
It's it's it's very cool. 

F1 S1 32:20
It is very cool. And it's came to a point where with things I have seen I have seen many things from different places coming into this world. 

F1 S2 32:29
Interesting. 

F1 S1 32:30
Yeah. So a lot of these energies, as you were putting it, these new energies might be things from other places. 

F1 S2 32:35
Wow. 

F1 S1 32:37
So it's been it's been really fascinating to watch that unfold. And then I know that when it comes to the spiritual side of things, the old guard of this world, when it comes to the spiritual, the spirituality, cultism, everything, whether it's religion, any of it, it is changing, whether they like it or not, period. That's changing. 

F1 S2 32:57
Oh, yeah. It's a massive shift. I see. Definitely. I think a lot of people are going to retire. 

F1 S1 33:03
God. 

F1 S2 33:07
Yeah, I definitely think, yeah, the people there's a lot of people that are just going to go. I feel like there's going to be some exposure of some people in places of power that have done negative things. They're just going to they're going to be exposed, just let go. I mean, and too, I feel like I don't know, I've said this before. I feel like it's a time to transition power from the the old guard to the new. And I feel like a lot of people are going to die, too. I mean, I swear I feel like a lot of people, people that have been around for a while, that aren't going to let go, they're just going to die. I feel like they're going to die. I feel I feel it. 

F1 S1 33:41
Yeah, There's a good possibility. I mean, you know, when you sow so much chaos and discord and you put so much joy. 

F1 S2 33:49
I just got something to watch this. There's going to be somebody, okay, They're going to die. And it's it's like a CEO. I'm seeing. It's like a CEO, somebody big, somebody prominent. They're going to die or they're going to retire. And somebody much younger, much younger is going to take their place and it's going to make national news. 

F1 S1 34:08
Okay. That's a big of a big deal. Yeah. 

F1 S2 34:10
Yeah. It's it's it's something. It's something. I watch it. I watch it. I just got that. I just got that was very awesome. And I mean, this is the proof. This is like a sign to prove like, Hey, this is coming. 

F1 S1 34:21
Well, let me rephrase. Very awesome that you said that. Not so much that somebody might die just to anybody. Doesn't take it out of. 

F1 S2 34:26
Context what happens the way it needs to happen. I don't care. It's not me. I could care less. You know, It's there. You know, you made your bed line. I don't care to be honest. 

F1 S1 34:36
I recently had somebody tell me, too, that sometimes you have to allow people who dig their own graves to get in their own graves, which allow them to put themselves in it. 

F1 S2 34:45
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. 

F1 S1 34:47
And that and then that's not trying to sound like nasty or pessimistic or anything. It's just, you know, when people do certain things and they are digging towards that or they are moving toward a certain thing, you have to just let them unfold it themselves. 

F1 S2 35:02
Yep, yep. You just let it play out because, you know, some of these people, you know, you feel bad, don't feel bad because some of these people have been takers their whole life. They take and they push people around and they block the block. You know, the new people are you know, they just stay in the spotlight and they they just they just take You don't feel bad for them. I mean, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. Good riddance. Goodbye. You know, sayonara. I don't care. 

F1 S1 35:30
What it's like. One of the things that this world has to learn, too, is that control does not equate power. It's not the same thing. 

F1 S2 35:37
That's very. 

F1 S1 35:38
Interesting. It is not the same thing at all. Just because you can control something doesn't mean that you have power. It is a false sense of power. It's just not true power. 

F1 S2 35:47
A lot of people control. They try to control it of insecurity because they don't fear. Fear power. Yeah, fear, insecurity, security. That's the antithesis of power. 

F1 S1 35:55
Yep. 

F1 S2 35:55
So but that's definitely I don't know. I feel like it's it's it's time for it's like a changing of the guard. It's like a transition, too. I feel like this is going to happen to you. All right. I'm seeing something with inheritances. It's time for a transition. I feel like somebody listening to this might get an inheritance, but it's funny. Like what I said to you, it's like your father's still alive and you might get an inheritance. It's like there will be people that are like, okay, I don't want to manage this anymore. Here you go. I was saving this for you, and now you're going to get it. There's going to be a lot of transfers of titles. Okay. I'm deep in it now. Good. I'm seeing transfers of titles, inheritances and things that you knew it was reserved for you and you thought you were going to have to wait 20 years, but you're not going to have to wait 20 years. It's coming through now. It's an energy, it's a transfer. It's like it's like the blessing in the Bible. When the father blesses his son, it's a it's a transfer of energy as well. So it's not just money, it's so much more. But I see that I feel like it's some people are being called to step up as well. I feel like maybe it's position, It's like you're going to run the family business now or you're going to get the chance to to be more visible to. Whereas before you could be. 

F1 S1 37:12
Handing over the keys. 

F1 S2 37:13
Yes. Yes. It's going to be very much like that. And I feel like and oh, in this it if you're on the other end of this, if you are the one handing over the keys, you're going to be blessed as well. You're going to have a good retirement. You're going to have you're not going to have conflicts. You're not going to have health problems. Oh, man. You're not going to have there's going to be a whole thing. It's going to be a whole nother level of blessing. And this is going to happen. It's going to be this is a new pattern. This is a new cycle I'm seeing. You're not going to you're going to be there and you're going to see your your your your posterity. You're going to see your success. You're going to see your legacy. Okay? This is a legacy. You're going to see that and you're going to have it's going to be it's going to be double the impact. You double the power. You're going to get back more for it. Where I mean, I don't maybe it was done in the past, but I feel like this is going to happen in mass is going to be like a mass thing. 

F1 S1 38:10
For someone who has not been able to let go of the power. 

F1 S2 38:13
Yeah. 

F1 S1 38:14
It's going to be huge when they finally relinquish that. 

F1 S2 38:18
In some people to something else. If you're holding on and you're starting to get health problems, let go and the health problems will subside. I feel I feel like a lot of this negative, a lot of the you're taking on so much, it's causing health problems. It's like a manifestation of energy. You're holding so much. As soon as you release it, the health problems will get better too, I feel. 

F1 S1 38:38
Yeah, that makes sense because when you're holding all that weight and all that burden you might bring upon yourself, worry, doubt and all these other things that will just work towards your own body to just kind of like, disintegrate your wellbeing. 

F1 S2 38:51
Yeah, it's very, it's very interesting how the, how the energy works, but I definitely feel now if you're listening to this, you're ready. It's going to happen to some of you. I'm somebody, I'm speaking to somebody. I feel it. It's funny and I feel like you've been ready. Okay, somebody, maybe you're ready to step up and then you stop. It's like you're ready to step up and it's like something stops you and it's like you're ready. It's like you're trying to start the car. It's like it's almost started, but then it doesn't start. It almost started, but it doesn't start. Now's the time. It's going to start and it's going to end. Let me tell you, people better get out of your way because you're ready to go. You're ready to go. Things are going to take off. Okay. This is a fertile atmosphere. This is a fertile environment. Things are now going to take off that could never take off before. And this is all the way across the board. This is for the country. I feel like scientific inventions. I feel like their start ups, all kinds of stuff is going to take off to where it could never take off before. And it's like a whole with this. It's connected to this transition of power. It's connected, and the next couple months are really going to usher this in and and there's going to be people who don't like it. There's going to be people who stand up, try to stand up against this, and they're going to be publicly humbled. They're going to be dealt with. There's going to be a violent energy that shuts them down. I mean, it's going to be a violent energy. So watch for some kind of storms. There's going to be some storms. This is physical. There's going to be some some kind of storms in the next couple of months. There's going to be some violence. We just had some hurricanes, but that's the part it's ushering in this. There's going to be some violent storms in some unexpected places. Okay. It could be in some unexpected places. Just watch the weather over the next couple of months. There's going to be some violent storms. It could be some earthquakes. It could be it could be something. It's going to be something. There is going to be a physical manifestation of this. I feel this. 

F1 S1 40:46
My dad and I talk about that to some degree. We were saying that we know something is coming. We know that something that is going to be perceived as being very terrible or sucking, but we know it's going to be okay. We know something's coming. We don't know what it is, but we feel prepared and we know it's going to be all right no matter what it is. 

F1 S2 41:05
And I'm kind of feeling California a little bit. I feel like something's happening, going to happen in California. 

F1 S1 41:10
Look. 

F1 S2 41:11
I feel like there's summer. It's not all bad. You know, I feel some some good things are going to come out of California. 

F1 S1 41:17
Okay. 

F1 S2 41:17
I feel like, you know, there's a lot of people and there's a lot of people, too, in California. Why do I feel really drawn toward that right now? There's a lot of people in California that have had it really tough. You know, I don't know, maybe it's an economic situation, but they've had it's almost like heartbreak. It's like you've had a dream, but it failed. That's going to be restored. That's going to be restored. There's going to be something new that comes forth. There's going to be something new that comes in and it's going to like, you know, Silicon Valley and all that. You know, it was all moving to Texas at one point, was it? Yeah. See, I don't know too much. See, I'm just trying to get over based off of what I hear and see. But it's but I feel like there's going to be a restoration in California for people that maybe it's like, do what you're supposed to do. It's like you thought you were going to be broken, homeless or all this, but it's not going to happen. It's going to be averted. Something else is going to come. There's going to be a blessing there. Something something good is coming to California. So just hold tight. Hold tight. Hold fast right where you are. Just. Just be patient and just hold tight for right now. Something good is coming. 

F1 S1 42:24
Could you say a restoration of hope and joy? 

F1 S2 42:27
Definitely. It's coming, but it's something tangible and something about trucks. What am I getting? Oh, God. It's something about. What's it? They're like a truckers thing. Oh, boy. It was some kind of rally, some trucking thing. Okay, something about trucks. There's something with trucks. 

F1 S1 42:46
Truck. Wasn't there a whole bunch of, like, convoys of tractor trailers going around the ground, the country for a while, something like that. 

F1 S2 42:52
But there's something to do with trucks. And I see it as some kind of trucking company. 

Maybe it's like the taxes on trucks. Oh, boy. I don't I don't know. I don't know, But. But that's good. Okay, well, we we'll leave that. But something else I'm feeling now is right now there's a lot of a despair. You know, people are in desperate. Yeah. It's just a spirit. I feel It's like despair. You think the world's going to add. You think you know, Terrible. You know, it's just really maybe the depression, too. People are really, really dealing with a lot of heavy emotions. You know, I would say, wait, wait, wait. Through Christmas, way through Christmas, if you just get through, get through Christmas and just show it through Christmas, I feel like New Year's is going to be a shift. There's going to be a shift that comes around New Year's time. There's going to be there's going to be a new shift. The a glimmer of hope is going to come around New Year's. There's going to be a glimmer of hope around New Year's. 

F1 S1 43:53
When that be interesting. If at the beginning of the new year, a lot of people put out that energy and that hope, too, and it all aligned in a way. 

F1 S2 44:01
Yeah. 

F1 S1 44:02
Do you? 

F1 S2 44:02
Yeah. I just heard there was just like a couple of million people got together to meditate for world peace. 

F1 S1 44:07
Wow. 

F1 S2 44:08
Or something? It was millions, man. Millions. I feel like it could be I That's not the end of that. That's not the end of that. People are starting to really tap into mass consciousness. You got Dr. Steven Greer. I mean, you know, you've got I mean, you got Bashar, you got all kinds I mean, Daryl Anker, you got all kinds of people doing all kinds of good, positive stuff. You know, And it's interesting, you know, you see what's going to come is definitely interesting. 

F1 S1 44:37
Indeed. It's good. 

F1 S2 44:39
You know, I'm sorry I told somebody I told somebody a while ago and I. I had a prophecy and I didn't give it. I didn't I didn't put it publicly. I said, somebody is really suffering. And you can't the energy is getting it's you just want to give up. You just want to quit. I felt like it was I honestly felt like it was a suicide, to be honest. And I was like, you can't give up. You've got to push through this level. You have to push through this. And 

I didn't say it. And a couple of weeks later it was like maybe a month later my friend killed himself. And I knew I knew it was for him. I didn't know at the time. I knew it was for somebody I didn't know. It was a prophecy I didn't give. Yeah, but yeah, my friend killed himself. Yeah. So I feel like that it's like desperate times. If you're in a place of desperation, it can make you do desperate things. And I'm not saying I'm not feeling that, but it's. But that's how important it is. Like, because you don't see if you're in the valley, you don't see what's in the next mountaintop. Yeah, you just the energies, it's ramping up. 

F1 S1 45:42
Perhaps it is a sign that when we have that knowledge, we should say it. 

F1 S2 45:49
Yes. Yeah, and I did. I kept it because it was it was very is very personal. It's a very tough word. It was very I don't know. I just. Yeah, but that's what happened. But, you know, you can't, you can't stop because in despair that's else, too. Philosophically you talk about this three D, five D your energies and all this. I feel like the harder the energy comes down, the actual it's actually getting better. It is because you just haven't translated that energy. That energy comes down and it's hard to deal with, but that you have to translate it into power. And that comes later. It's worse in the beginning. When you get to a new level, you have to push through the negative energy to get to the good, the good stuff. Yeah, but that always comes second. 

F1 S1 46:38
Yeah, you could say it's kind of like a my journey. When I started, all the stuff seemed very insurmountable, but I knew is going to be okay. But I got through it and then eventually it became tiny stuff. So then the next wave of big stuff came. Yeah. And then that became tiny stuff. So it's like the cycle of overcoming and those obstacles that you had to face become very minuscule are not important. Yeah. And so when you get up to a certain point, you're just facing more and more of these challenges, but you're overcoming them. So it is in that sense, you're becoming more powerful since you've overcame those things. 

F1 S2 47:15
Yeah, I mean, it's I think it's power. I don't think it's just about power. 

F1 S1 47:20
No, it's not just about power. 

F1 S2 47:22
I mean, you see, you learn a whole lot in the process. When a new energy comes, you have to get calibrated to that level, so you've got to be able to handle it. Yeah, it's Not just I think that's the whole point of this world. It's not that you just get everything handed to you like the whole. Oh, it's supposed to be paradise. No, you have to be able to create that within yourself and hold it. Yeah. You have to anchor that in. So you have to go through all the polarity, all the negative aspects that could challenge that. And you have to beat that. And then you get the prize. You don't get ice cream until you eat your vegetables. All right? Yeah, that's. That's how I see it. Yeah. So if you give up now, yes, it might be easier. What if you get reset? You might get reset. You know, that's just thinking. It's like I was thinking about that earlier. Like this whole suicide thing, you know? And I was thinking I was like, I just thought, what if I kill myself? I'm scared to. I might wake up in my bed in a parallel universe door. It's a little bit easier. Like, okay, but it's like, okay, you missed out on this opportunity to get up to a higher level. Yeah, You know. 

F1 S1 48:27
I. 

F1 S2 48:28
Gotcha. Who knows? Maybe somebody else is, you know, that Maybe. Maybe they will, you know, have some near-death experience and wake up in a hospital or. Who knows? I don't know. I mean, it kind of scares me. I think that's the fear of the Lord. I think it's like I'm scared to do that because, yeah, it might be easier, but you might cheat yourself sometimes. You got to walk through the valley, though. I walk through the valley of the shadow of death. It's not death. It's a shadow. All right. I will fear no evil. 

F1 S1 48:55
Yeah. 

F1 S2 48:56
The Lord is with me. 

F1 S1 48:57
Correct. 

F1 S2 48:58
Something. I've been praying that prayer a lot for the last of months. I'm like, I wa. I feel I've been feeling like I've been walking through the valley of the shadow of death. And I just pray. I'm like, you prepare a table before me. The presence in Miami sometimes you feel like you're surrounded by so much adversity and enemies, and I feel I've been feeling that. But you got to just hold fast. You've got I mean, I know this. I've been feeling that I feel like everybody can relate to this right now. 

F1 S1 49:25
I'm sure they can. I myself have been going through a lot of that. Yes. 

F1 S2 49:28
Yeah, It's a time. It's a season. I mean, that's the energy, you. 

F1 S1 49:31
Know, as to whether it was people I dealt with that were challenging or it was different spirits or entities or energies, however you want to put it, it has been something that the last year that I have been going through a lot and I've actually taken a break from everything. Yeah. And I was told after that break when I move forward, they wanted to make sure that I was like, Are you sure? Are you sure you want to be done with this break? Because once you start, once this break is over, you're not going back. It's just going to go more and more and more and become more crazy and difficult as it's going to seem. But you're going to get through it. 

F1 S2 50:07
Yeah, it's great. You might get another break. You might get another break in a while, you know? Yeah, it's funny. March is going retrograde soon. That seems to be. Oh, man, that was great. Glorious for me last time. It was a break. And, you know, it's it's interesting, but I think we said a lot today. 

F1 S1 50:23
Yeah, we did, to be honest. 

F1 S2 50:25
You know, I want to say a prayer for people. 

F1 S1 50:27
Go ahead. 

F1 S2 50:28
If that's going work with me. You know, I do want to make this I don't want to make this a religion thing. You know, it's I'm just a spiritual person. I bless all religions and anybody who's on a spiritual path that wants to better themselves and to help other people, that's what it's all about for me. I could care less who you are. You could say you worship the devil. I don't care if you want to. If you honestly want to help people, I could give a crap what religion you are. And if you if it's coming from a good heart, that's it. 

F1 S1 50:56
I completely agree. It's a great way to look at it. 

F1 S2 50:58
All right. 

F1 S1 50:59
Yeah. 

F1 S2 51:00
All right. Right now I get. I want you to bless people. I want you to give people a perspective, give them a radical new perspective for their life so they can understand and they can see the positive and they can see their growth and they can see their potential. So they can see that they can elevate and they'll know that everything is going to be okay. That's it. 

F1 S1 51:25
Yeah. Just I pray that people can find the hope and joy in life no matter what comes our way. 

F1 S2 51:31
Exactly. 

F1 S1 51:32
Yup. 

F1 S2 51:32
Erin may see it. 

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